DISCUSSIONSCategory: GAME RULESHeroes are Not Heroic…!?
JD asked 8 years ago

I’m surprised at the Hero rules and how ineffective Heroes are: They only provide +1 combat strength, and that’s if all cards in the battle line are the same faction, otherwise they provide no combat advantage at all. An opponent can attack and conquer your city from right underneath your Hero as if (s)he doesn’t exist! That makes no sense to me. If a Hero’s city is attacked they should have to be the first in line to be fought, and the city can only be conquered if they’re defeated. Opponents’ Heroes can move through map tiles that your Hero is on with no opportunity for you to “challenge” them and block their movement. This means that Heroes are used simply as markers to show which city you’re going to attack next, they barely interact and cannot be used defensively to protect cities, apart from the weak “+1 in combat” ability. I would suggest: Heroes should have their own combat strength of a fixed amount, say 3, when engaged in combat. Or they could inherit the same strength as any city they’re defending. If an opponent attacks a city with a Hero on it, (s)he must defeat the Hero first before being able to try to conquer the city. A player should be able to “challenge” any Hero that moves into a tile occupied by his own Hero if he wishes (he may decide to “hide” if he has a weak combat hand that round). Maybe he should have to present a Weapon card to do so. The opponent shouldn’t be able to just move past and ignore a Hero if one is encountered during movement. These changes would make the end game more tactical; at the moment it just feels like players seek out the next city to attack and move their Heroes to it, ignoring enemy Heroes (who are powerless to stop it) completely. Have I understood the rules correctly? I know there are some extra abilities for Heroes in the KS expansion (blockading and +1/+3 combat strength for Emberians) but still they don’t address these basic issues.

JD replied 8 years ago

Sorry the system appears to have thrown out all my text formatting 🙁

battalia Staff replied 8 years ago

Hello! Yes, you are right, the heroes could have great potential in this game. And yes, the KS provided to some players the opportunity to have special hero abilities. For the base game though we decided to keep it simple regarding the heroes to keep the overall complexity of the game to a certain level. Most of your suggestions are really interesting but they would make the game more difficult, even more strategic and could “frighten” some not so hard core players. You can always try some home rules to explore the possible abilities of the heroes. Actually, the only thing that I am not sure that you are getting right is that you actually can attack other heroes if you stand on the same spot with them. And the defender could retreat if he can “pay” for this action. And please be patient. We have big plans for this figures in the future. The thing is that if you have optional mechanics in an expansion you can decide to use them, thus making your game more complex and inevitably longer, or not. Of course, we will announce the details when it is time. 🙂

JD replied 8 years ago

OK thanks for the reply. I will try my house rules for the Heroes, I think they make the ‘chess match’ on the board more interesting. Loving the game so far in all other respects, and looking forward to trying the many variants and expansions.

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battalia Staff answered 8 years ago

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battalia Staff replied 8 years ago

Heroes are more heroic now, after launching of heroic mode, right 🙂 !?!